Andy Tomlinson

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Have you ever wondered if there is more to life than just this one life you are currently living? Have you had the feeling of deja vu? Have you had strange dreams where you were someone else? In this show I interview Andy Tomlinson a Past Life Regression Therapist based in the UK who is bringing his training to Australia. He describes his ideas of past lives, life between lives and your souls journey. It’s different to the mainstream style of thinking. Have a listen and send me your feedback. I was certainly amazed. Here is a link to Andy’s site www.regressionacademy.com :) John.

Transcript of the show.

ANDY TOMLINSON Past Life Regressionist

JOHN PETROZZI: Hi and welcome to Living is Easy. I’m your host, John Petrozzi. Today, we’re really lucky to be speaking with Mr. Andy Tomlinson on the telephone from the UK. Andy is a Past Life Regression therapist. He has had a prior practice dedicated to regression therapy since 1996, from a background of ten years as a management trainer and is internationally known for his training.

He is a founding member of the European Academy of Regression Therapy and the European Association of Regression Therapy, and has been working to establish a common quality training standards with the leading regression therapy training organisations in Europe.

He is the author of a few books. The first one is “Healing the Eternal Soul,” which is recognized as an extremely valuable contribution and advancement to the regression therapy field. His second book is “Exploring the Eternal Soul,” which takes us further into the new area of life between lives.

Hi, Andy. Thanks for speaking with us today all the way from UK.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Good. Thank you. I’m really pleased to be here.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, this is a really interesting subject to me – regression therapy – because it’s very new. I’ve never heard of it before. A lot of our listeners may not have heard of regression therapy as a profession before either. Could you tell us a bit about the profession of past life regression therapy, how you got into it, and what it means to you?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, okay. I think just to explain to everybody. The word “regression” means to go back to the source of the problem. So the source of the person’s problem could be something that happened in this life or their timeline is extended to go beyond that and into stories that have all the appearance of being their past life.

By going back to the source of the problem, it’s possible to actually heal it in a way that’s much deeper and much more profound than therapies that don’t do that. For example, if you look at that like getting a thorn in our skin, we could either try to put a plaster and to heal the surface. The outward signs may look like it’s healed, but there will still be the thorn buried deep in there. Or we could go in and actually remove the thorn and healing takes place. This is really what regression is about. It’s really enabling people to go to the source of the problem and be able to heal up.

JOHN PETROZZI: So what do you mean “going to the source of the problem”? Do you mean going to the source of the problem that actually happened not in our present lifetime, from our birth to our current age? Do you mean some of this happened previous to that in a past life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, certainly stories emerge that have all the appearance of being a past life. Therapists who work in this area don’t necessarily go out to try to prove or disprove the story. It’s simply the therapeutic power that these stories bring in the healing process.

If one was to look for whether past lives are real or not, there would be a need to really look at the work of other people. For example, if you or I had a story emerged and we thought it was a past life, someone else could listen to that and say, “Yes, but it could perhaps just be a buried memory or something that was forgotten or something that was read about, and somehow it just comes to the surface.”

JOHN PETROZZI: So it’s something imagined?

ANDY TOMLINSON: The source of whether past lives are really real has to go to a different source, and this is through the work of a wonderful pioneer in this area called Dr. Ian Stevenson. He specialised working with children who had what appeared to be spontaneous past lives. Ian Stevenson is a professor – or certainly was, as he is recently deceased – was a professor of Para-psychology at the University of Virginia in the United States.

This is a person with very well respected position. When he went out to investigate these stories of what appeared to be spontaneous past lives, he went about it like a detective, gathering all the information, interviewed all of the witnesses, checking for signs of deceit by going back that many years later. He wrote the case studies of 2,600 children, all of which appear to have past life experiences.

I mean, for example, one child that he investigates has been in a small village in India. As soon as she could speak, she started to talk about her other family and her other home. Her parents who lived in a small rural village, where there is no media or TV, started to get a little concerned about this, and decided to take this little girl to this village that she was talking about to prove to her that the house that she described to her parents just didn’t exist, thinking hopefully the youngster would stop talking about the event.

They went on this trip to this other village, and there was a house exactly as it was being described, and they knocked on the door. When the owner of the house came and they asked whether there was a young girl of a particular name, the person at the door went rather white and explained that it had been his daughter and that she died nine years previously, and invited this family in. They went through a whole series of exercises to test how valid the recall of this youngster was.

Now a lot of the value in these stories is in all the details. Things like she was able to remember going to a wedding and having a problem with diarrhea and having to go to the toilet. Now this isn’t a sort of thing that people would normally remember except the person themselves, even able to describe where his favorite toy was being hidden. The parents pulled back a little stone, and there was the toy exactly being described. Altogether with this one child Professor Stevenson gathered 49 separate pieces of evidence that couldn’t be explained away by anything other than reincarnation.

Certainly, it appears that there’s a lot of evidence to support that at least some people have past lives. Of course, with young children, all the gnomes or fairies that are brought to account for this just don’t exist, simply because they’re not exposed to other sources of information. But it does raise rather interesting questions, like even if some people do have past lives like children, does that mean to say everybody has past lives? Does that mean to say that people who experience hypnosis, which is a normal for people to forget their past lives, whether those are real or not?

I think that’s really up to everybody to make up their own mind, but certainly, it seems to most rational thinkers, if you can establish beyond doubt that at least one person or several people have past lives, it would be very strange that only some people have past lives and not others. I think this is where rational thinking needs to apply with looking at the evidence.

JOHN PETROZZI: So with past lives, why do we forget them and why did these particular people in Dr. Stevenson’s studies, why did they remember them? Is it because they’re children still? It’s very, very close to them being born? Why don’t we actually remember these things consciously in our human everyday life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, the answer to that is that if we were to remember where we came from ourselves, then we’re coming from a place of unconditional love, because that source would be the one we call the Soul Energy that joins the human body when the baby is created. If we were to remember the unconditional love there, everybody would get homesick and want to go back.

Certainly, for a lot of people, to remember all of the past lives as a child could be quite overwhelming. So the natural process is to remove those memories on the point where the baby is created, but sometimes some of the memories do linger for a little while. These are some of the examples that Ian Stevenson’s been working with.

But for most people, their memories are still available to them at a subconscious level. In fact, when people go into altered state, such as using hypnosis, and the conscious mind becomes less active, it’s possible to tune in to these memories. Of course, children find it’s much easier to tune into these sort of memories because their heads aren’t full of all the facts and figures and thoughts and so on that our critical mind accumulate over our lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: So, can we actually go into one of these meditative states and do some self-discovery with past life regression, or do we need to go to a past life regression therapist as yourself to delve into the past life memories?

ANDY TOMLINSON: It really depends on what people want to do. If people want to just tune in and touch some small aspects of a past life out of curiosity, then there are quite a lot of different ways of doing this. There are CDs that people can purchase that may in fact do that. Often, when I do one-day workshops, I have group sessions and I tune groups in and allow them to get in touch with parts of a past life. But that’s totally different than working with people in a therapeutic session-

JOHN PETROZZI: I understand. So that’s more out of curiosity, is it?

ANDY TOMLINSON: -quite a lot of skills are needed. It’s almost like if we were to go for surgery or perhaps some problem that we have, maybe open-heart surgery, we’d really want to make sure we would go to someone who’d be professionally trained and certified and have the experience to do the operation well. It’s a little bit the same when people go in for therapy, even though past lives are involved, it’s important people are trained professionally, because our soul is just as important as our heart.

JOHN PETROZZI: Because that’s really what you’re doing, isn’t it? You mentioned before that it’s like going back to the point of trauma taking out the thorn. That’s really what a past life regression therapy session is, isn’t it? It’s really taking out the essence of what happened way back then so it doesn’t affect you now.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Yeah. So it’s probably easiest to illustrate that with a case study.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yes, please.

ANDY TOMLINSON: One that immediately springs to mind, because it was quite dramatic, was a lady who had pain in her hands and fingers and arms. This pain would be something that she’d been living with for many, many years. It’s an incredibly high level of pain, and according to the medical doctors, when they were examining her in the hospital, it was one level of pain higher than someone dying of terminal cancer.

JOHN PETROZZI: Wow, that’s extreme.

ANDY TOMLINSON: This pain was so intense that if she tried to do simple things like holding something, holding a cup, this would trigger the pain, and the pain would get more intense. This was something that she was experiencing the whole time 24 hours a day. In all the tests that she had done by the medical doctors, it was just unexplainable pain and no one had an answer for it. She tried to have some painkillers but the side effects from the painkillers were so strong that she was unable to do that.

When she went into a regression session, she appeared to go into a past life in 16th century as a young girl working in an orphanage. In the orphanage, her job was to look after the children. These were children who’d been left destitute, and the orphanage had taken them over and was looking after them. At some point, there was a fire in the orphanage and this young girl tried to rescue the children unsuccessfully, and in the process, badly burned her hands. By not being able to rescue these children she was responsible for and that she had so much love with, she got such an intense guilt that she committed suicide. But she left that life with guilt and all the burns and the pains in her hands and arms.

In this life, she had had various relationship problems and had felt guilty about what was happening to her children. This guilt had triggered this unexplainable pain. The way that past life regression therapies work is not only to explore the past life but to transform it.

JOHN PETROZZI: It’s amazing.

ANDY TOMLINSON: By transformation, it means that it enables the client to become aware of things differently. It enabled her to become aware that she tried everything that she could do. There wasn’t anything else she could have done. In the process of discovering that and of letting go of the guilt, and also of working with the situations in her current life, whether it be guilt, and releasing those, the pain went.

JOHN PETROZZI: What a chain reaction!

ANDY TOMLINSON: She’s able now to do all the simple things in life that she couldn’t do before, hold a knife and fork and hold her children’s hands, and she lives a perfectly normal life.

JOHN PETROZZI: Without pain.

ANDY TOMLINSON: This had such a profound effect on her that not only did it take away a lot of the symptoms, but it transformed her spiritual awareness to the point where she wanted to become a past life therapist herself to be able to help heal other people in exactly the same way that she had this wonderful healing herself.

JOHN PETROZZI: It’s extraordinary. Does that mean, in essence, that if we do, let’s just call it a bad date or a bad action in a past life, will it come back and haunt our current life? People have heard of Karmic energy, that if you do something bad in a past life, you’ll be paying for that deed in your current life until you’ve righted it. In your understanding of how past life occurs, do you believe that there’s an issue that needs to be dealt with in our present life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: I’d like to use words slightly differently than the ones you used.

JOHN PETROZZI: Go for it.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Words like “good and bad judgement.”

JOHN PETROZZI: That’s right.

ANDY TOMLINSON: One thing that happens at the soul level, at the spiritual level, is the complete freedom of making judgements, that each soul is respected for the decisions that they make. Each experience is considered a learning opportunity. If souls are chosen to have a particular life and to experience a certain aspect of being in the human body and it’s not complete, when the part that isn’t complete gets weld over into another lifetime so that completion can take place.

JOHN PETROZZI: What do you mean “not complete,” Andy?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, I mean, for example, supposing someone in a past life, let’s say that soul had chosen to come down to learn about power and to experience not having power. For example, there was a client that I had that I worked with, that in her current life would be in abusive situations. First, her parents physically abused her, then, when she met her husband, he abused her. She had a string of boyfriends and they similar things, either physical, psychological abuse. There was something in her energy space that just attracted a certain type of person into her life. These were people who are taking power away from her, and she was experiencing powerlessness.

When she regressed, she regressed into a past life of being in Victorian England, which she started off as a homeless little child, but eventually found a job working in one of the Victorian laundries, which involved heating dirty clothes and filling them – this is really before the days of washing machines – and worked 16 hours a day in this laundry, which was virtually slave labour.

Then one day, this wealthy gent took a liking to her and married her. She thought this was all her dreams being answered, but it turned out that this particular Victorian gentleman wasn’t quite what he seemed and took his frustrations of business life out on her and beat her. She said, “Well, what can I do? I don’t have any family to go to. I don’t have any money,” because in Victorian England, all the money belonged to the males. She said, “If I go and report him, he is someone that gives money to charity and is seen as an important person, who’s going to believe me? I’ve come from a poor, uneducated background.”

So she just accepted the beatings. She lost her power in that situation. Eventually, the beatings became so bad that with one of the beatings, she fell down the stairs and she died with aches and pains all over her body and there’s helplessness. And because that life sort of ended before she’d been able to reclaim her power, then she’d gone into her current life almost finding the same sort of patterns were occurring.

Just as in her past life where there were these aches and pains on her body, in her current life, whenever she was experiencing the helplessness, then these mysterious unexplainable pains – certainly the medical people would refer to them as unexplainable – reoccurred. Of course, it’s very understandable where these pains came from in looking at it in the bigger picture by having the knowledge of the incomplete past life.

So by going into that past life, we’ve been able to reclaim her power back with the psychotherapy or therapy. Also by working with her character from her current life, she was able to go back to her current partner and say to him, “Treat me well or leave me.” It sounds incredibly easy to say, but when someone’s had a whole life, or in this case, even past lives of experiencing helplessness, it’s extremely hard to say those words.

So in being able to do that and to bring in all of these experiences into the here and now in her current life, her boyfriend left and her aches and pains never came back. She found that she was able to enter into a different type of relationship, a relationship with someone who could give her love, instead of taking her power. The need to find completion, to find the answers, and once the answers were found, the lesson that the soul has chosen is complete. Then the pain can go because it’s not needed. The pains, either physical or emotional, are there just to remind us at a conscious level of something we need to attend to.

JOHN PETROZZI: So how does one know when it’s time to- that they could probably benefit from seeing a past life regression therapist. What are the signs, and when does someone know that he needs to see someone about it?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, there are a lot of wonderful therapists around, and I would really suggest that people go to a therapist with something that resonates for them, either the therapist themselves or the type of therapy. But when the therapies that are offered really don’t get deep enough, they don’t really heal it at the appropriate level, then that’s probably the time to seek out someone who can work with past lives, because the thing that’s really important in this process is, first of all, it’s working in an altered state, such as hypnosis.

In hypnosis, what happens is our thoughts and our mind, they’re full of all sorts of things. The critical analysis type mind, the thoughts that we pick up as children from our parents, thoughts that we’ve inherited from our culture – all of these become less and less and drift into the background, and our true conscious mind and our soul can come together with the source of the problem and transform it. That’s the thing that makes regression therapy so powerful.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, with your permission, I’d like to go a little bit deeper and ask you some questions about the soul, because we’ve mentioned the soul about a few times in the interview so far. What is the soul? We’ve all got one. Or do we all have one? You mentioned also that we choose a time to come down, come down from where? And we have lessons to learn; where do we decide which lessons to learn and how to learn them? It is a bit of a deep question, but I’d love to go into it a little bit.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Okay. Well, maybe, if we just address it slowly. I mean, behind everything we see in physical form is an invisible hand. I prefer to use the word “The Ultimate Source” rather than using words like “God” or so on, because sometimes, if you use words like that, it associates you with specific religion. In some people’s mind, it can be misinterpreted. I think most scientists realise that behind the wonders of the universe, there’s something that’s more profound and can be explained purely through physical form, and it’s this oneness that’s the source of everything that happens.

Souls are small fragments from the oneness that are created deliberately to have their own unique experience. The experience that exists in the spiritual realms of spirit is pure unconditional love. To really appreciate unconditional love, then the individual souls seek out that experience, because being in human form, it’s impossible to experience something different than unconditional love. After experiencing that, it enables them to appreciate unconditional love all the more when they return.

JOHN PETROZZI: I understand.

ANDY TOMLINSON: So, I’d like to explain reincarnation in a way almost through a metaphor. It’s almost like those old-fashioned divers with steel helmets on their head and an air pipe all the way back up to the mother ship. What used to happen with those divers is that they used to decide whereabouts in the ocean they were going to have to dive, and then the person would get into the dive suit, the hat would be put on, the air supply would start, and then the diver would slowly be lowered down onto the seabed.

Then on the seabed, the diver had free will where to go. But there’s only a limit to how far the diver could go because of the amount of time that they’re down there, and of course, because there is an air pipe linking them from the mother ship. Then at the end of the day, when the diver completed whatever mission had been assigned to them, they would slowly come all the way back up to the mother ship, bringing back with them whatever experiences they had down on the seabed.

The mother ship is a little bit like a source of soul. A part of our soul breaks up and goes into reincarnation, and the air pipe is almost like the link between the part of ourselves in human form and the other part that sometimes people refer to as a “higher self.” We have our experience on earth in whatever areas been planned forth and then when we come back, we bring back that experience.

JOHN PETROZZI: Okay.

ANDY TOMLINSON: That’s almost like reincarnation is light, and it’s about learning different aspects and going through a whole wide range of emotions. When the soul has finally been able to master everything that can happen on earth in all the possible sort of situations you could imagine he could find himself on earth over many hundreds or thousands of lifetimes, they become their masters. They often then act as guides and helpers of other souls that are relatively newer.

These called spirits of light that have mastered everything are source of very profound wisdom. This is one of the areas that are experienced when I work with clients and take them into memories between past lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: All right. You tell us some more.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Now, for this sort of experience, people really need to be in deep level of hypnosis in order to fully connect with those memories. They find out throughout experience who they really are and what their purpose is for this life.

JOHN PETROZZI: And that’s happening, you mentioned, between lives.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Yes. Now, this work is based on the wonderful pioneering work of Michael Newton, who spent 30 years of his lifetime perfecting a lot of these techniques and has written some wonderful books on the subject.

JOHN PETROZZI: Do you know what these books are called?

ANDY TOMLINSON: There’s one in particular called “Journey of Souls,” where he describes in great detail what happens between lives. Also quite a number of people that have been trained by him and also quite independently, a number of psychologists and psychiatrists who have been investigating this area have found that some of the major events are very, very similar. There’s a lot of commonality here.

So all for all, in excess of 10,000 people in all of the major cultures of the world, regardless of their previous religious theories, have experienced very similar types of events between past lives, which must make this one of the most amazing piece of research into past life regression.

JOHN PETROZZI: Okay. And what are these experiences between lives? Because essentially, we’re not, as you say, reincarnated as a human being here on earth have any experience, we’re still in the – I’m not too sure where it is – but we’re still in a soul form. So what’s actually happening there between these lives? Because we’re not material; we’re still some other energy form or frequency, whatever you want to call it. What is actually happening out there and what are the commonalities in the experiences that were observed with Michael Newton?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, the first thing is the actual death point. What happens at the death point is like the soul leaves the physical body. It obviously leaves the intensity of any physical pain at that time. It takes with it all of the intense energy of the emotions and the memories of some aspects of that physical pain.

It’s almost like it can be really intense energy. The first thing that it does is it either comes directly to the light to receive healing, to wash away this intense energy, or sometimes, it stays earth-bound.

JOHN PETROZZI: As a ghost?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Certainly can do stay as a ghost. In some cases, people leave suddenly, and their spirit doesn’t actually realise that this is their guide, and can still sail about. What I was really going to say is that souls lost are attracted by excessive grief of loved ones at the death point, and try to stay behind and communicate to them. Sometimes they may have some success, but it’s the sympathy for those that are being left behind that can sometimes cause them not to go immediately to the healing and the journey that they go on.

There’s a lot of similarity in the descriptions of the death experience with reports of near-death experiences, which millions of people around the world have experienced. After the healing and after the shedding of this intense energy, people talk about an expansion of their energy, of feeling lighter, getting to their normal level of vibration. Of course, at this point, they’re just pure energy, and of course, everything is energy, and of course, we know this from Einstein.

One of the things that can happen is that sometimes, for their own comfort, souls can project their thoughts and their desire to have a world around them that appears to be familiar, such as tress or fields, lots of buildings or even a temple. They can create the perception of that around them, but in reality, they’re just pure energy.

Sometimes, other souls that come and meet them can project themselves in human form as well. This is very much purely for the benefit of the incoming soul. Death is seen as a time of great rejoicing in the spiritual realms, of coming back home, and people talk about the intense joy of just being connected again with fellow souls. It becomes part of celebrations.

It’s kind of interesting that from a human perspective, we see death as a time of sadness, and yet the spiritual perception is death is a time of coming back home, or reunions. When you see a birth, we see this as a time of rejoicing. Although there is not quite the same negative emotions in the spiritual realm, certainly when souls are going off and maybe taking some difficult earth assignment, it’s almost like the farewell of old friends leaving to go on a difficult task. So they almost see things in a completely different way than we do from a human perspective.

One of the most profound and important parts of what happens between lives is to review the past lives. This is an important part, so it’s often accompanied by some sort of spiritual help. Quite often, this is through a spirit guide. Spirit guides are evolved spirit that know all about the life plan of the soul, have been overseeing it during the human incarnation, and they’re there to help the soul understand how well or not the objectives for that life to achieve.

I’ll be back to give you an example of how that works.

JOHN PETROZZI: That would be great.

ANDY TOMLINSON: A person in a past life, at a past life as a religious person in medieval Europe. They did talk about confessions, so one would assume that it was with one aspect of the Christian religion. I was getting rather bored with the confessions and decided that the only way to progress was to buy the way up and to buy a more senior division inside the church. At that point in medieval Europe, that was one of the practices that existed.

In order to do that, he started to league with some robbers. The arrangement was the robbers would steal some gold from one of the large houses nearby, and the priest would hide their gold in a crypt, which was a small area down the stairs underneath some stone slab that only the priest knew about. Then when everything about the robbery being forgotten, that gold would be brought out and split equally between the robbers and the priest, and then they could both go on their way.

The gold was stolen kept down in the crypt, but unfortunately, before the gold was used, some raiders came to the local village on horseback; they’re burning houses, killing, raping people. The local villagers came to the priest and said, “Please help us. Please put us somewhere safe.” The priest didn’t really know what to do and thought, “Well, the only safe place is down those steps in that small crypt, where the gold is.”

Without hesitation, led all these people into this area, put the stone back to seal it, and then went out to confront these raiders, holding a cross, frightening them with hell and damnation and scaring them away. When  he came back to pull the stone slab back, it turned out that all these people have died of suffocation, being crowded into this place where the stone slab had sealed the air from them. And they were all dead!

The priest pulled them all out, took them on the ground outside the church, and at that point, made a vow that from this point onwards, he would only lead a life of helping others, a religious life, especially life as light. The first thing to do was the gold was brought out. People at that time thought it was something that had come from the robbers. The priest gave this gold to all of the poor, and then lived the rest of his life helping everybody, almost like a saint, except this priest knew what had happened and didn’t tell anybody.

When the priest died, he was brought together with the spirit guide and started to reveal the life. The priest was saying, “Oh, what a terrible life. I killed all those people. Oh, what a disaster that life’s been.” The spirit guide said, “Well, look, it wasn’t your intention to kill all those people. It’s not the act that is important from the spiritual perspective; it’s the intention. The only intention that you had was a misuse of power, misuse of responsibility. Your responsibility was to help people and that’s the area that didn’t go entirely right.”

So in reviewing the past life, the first thing to note is nothing is ever hidden. The spiritual part of us, like our soul, which should part out of our physical form, knows everything and remembers everything. The second part is that your own spirit guide is to help and advise. It’s down to every soul in the end to decide what they want to do. That soul decided that they wanted to have the next life working on the subject of responsibility in order to master that particular aspect, so it went through a series of events which involved him planning before the next life.

JOHN PETROZZI: Amazing link there. Can we do anything now in our current life to, or is there a need to communicate or meditate with or get messages from our spirit guides that are kind of like our guardian angels?

ANDY TOMLINSON: The spirit guides will be there for everybody. Everybody has got at least one. They also have other teachers that come in at various times in their life to help them. Whether they realise it or not, their spirit guides will be helping them in a specific way while we’re asleep. One of the things that happen during sleep is that information will be passed through them of a helpful nature that will slowly come to conscious awareness.

Sometimes, they help by putting suggestions. For example, when lives are planned – and it’s not possible to plan every single detail of our life, because it’s just simply too complex, all the possibilities that can occur – so what tends to happen is the planning tends to take place in small groups of souls, and this we refer to as “soul groups.” It’s not uncommon for souls to be together for hundreds of lifetimes playing different roles. Sometimes, a soul may be a father, and another soul as a son. In fact, in the next life, they play different roles. In one life maybe one is a perpetrator and the other’s a victim, and in the next life they can play a different role.

The way is that within the soul groups, they can plan and arrange to meet. They arrange to meet because there’s something that’s building a trigger, for the people in human form recognise something about the people they meet. They can’t point to any one thing, but certain people or certain situations or certain places just feel that they’re getting to them. To help them process along, the spirit guides may help a little bit to help arrange for these meetings to occur.

So spirit guides are there communicating to us all the time, but sometimes it can be quite hard for us to always hear that. There are times when we simply don’t hear it at all. It’s a little bit like having a little radio. If we get an awful lot of static on the radio, we can’t hear the signal. All we hear is the static. So we have to reduce the level of static and then we can hear the music quite clearly.

That static are all of the thoughts that go through in our mind, such as “I got to get the washing in today,” or “I got to pick up the children from school.” In all these day-to-day thoughts in these very busy lives that we all live, a static gets in the way. The way of reducing the level of static is through meditation or to use self-hypnosis tapes, which is another way of enabling people just to relax and to allow these thoughts that are charting through the mind just to become less and less troublesome.

JOHN PETROZZI: How about dream then?

ANDY TOMLINSON: The other thing is obviously you can ask to be connected with a spirit guide. You have to listen.

JOHN PETROZZI: You mean ask specifically, like out loud or in our thoughts?

ANDY TOMLINSON: You can make the intention of asking a spirit guide whatever it is that we wish to know. Now, the information can come through in lots of different ways. When people are rather new to this, they may find it quite hard to always fully connect with it. Sometimes, they may just get a feeling of what’s being said or they may get thoughts popping into their head, or they may even get an image that’s projected. They may get an image on some thoughts and that’s the way the spirit guide communicates. The spirit guide may show themselves in human form from one the spirit guide’s previous past lives, in a way that just helps a person recognise them.

Quite often, a lot of people find it helpful to go to intuition development groups.

JOHN PETROZZI: What are they?

ANDY TOMLINSON: These are opportunities to work together with like-minded people and to do fun exercises that are designed just to help us become a little bit more aware of spirit guides. Now of course, people that are trained to be past life regression therapists would be trained to use hypnosis and that makes the whole process an awful lot easier, because in deep levels of hypnosis, most people are able to communicate quite rapidly and quickly with spirit guides. In fact, they’re often brought in as part of the transformational process, because often they can sound to get profound information that’s exactly what the person needs to move forward with their lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: Wow, that’s fascinating. Really, it’s fascinating. I have so many questions to ask, Andy, but we’re coming close to the end of the show. Are there any closing remarks or comments you’d like to leave our listeners with?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, I think the first thing that I would suggest to everybody is to become aware of who you really are. Just become aware of who you really are. This is all about becoming aware of our spiritual side. I’m just going to read a short excerpt, and this is from a client that I had a session that I think illustrates how the process of discovering who you really are begins to happen in the sorts of things that people experience when they start to happen.

It says, “Although I feel it, my words cannot do it justice. This was to me an extremely profound experience. It put a lot of issues in my life into context and enabled me to look at the bigger picture in terms of the journey of my energetic soul. I can only say thank you to the universe for giving me a glimpse of my soul. It was magical, wonderful, and a humbling experience. It touched me. It changed my view of life. It opened my eyes, my heart, and my soul to greater calm. I have an understanding, love and respect for life and others in their journey, for the universe and for myself.”

Not everybody would have an experience like that, but as people become more aware of who they really are, to me, their having their own personal experience or by reading books on the subject, it will enable them to start thinking about things in a completely different way.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, just thanks again for all your knowledge today. I really appreciate your messages. Your thoughts and examples have been awe-inspiring and eye-opening. Could you give us again a contact detail that you have, in terms of websites that we can learn more about regression therapy and about yourself and other readings possibly?

ANDY TOMLINSON: There are two websites I’d like people to consider looking at. The first is the website that I have. It’s www.regressionacademy.com. That has a number of books. It has a lot of links to other websites, and people are trading information about that as well, also therapist. The other website is a Life Awareness program, and this is based on some wonderful work by Tony Winninger and Peter Jenkins, who I’ve been working very closely with. Their website is www.lifeawareness.org. If you want to read any of the books or to browse it as websites, then that’s the source.

JOHN PETROZZI: Fantastic. That’s great, Andy. Thanks again. We really appreciate it.

You’ve been listening to Living is Easy with John Petrozzi. Until next time, stay well and stay happy.

JOHN PETROZZI: Hi and welcome to Living is Easy. I’m your host, John Petrozzi. Today, we’re really lucky to be speaking with Mr. Andy Tomlinson on the telephone from the UK. Andy is a Past Life Regression therapist. He has had a prior practice dedicated to regression therapy since 1996, from a background of ten years as a management trainer and is internationally known for his training.

He is a founding member of the European Academy of Regression Therapy and the European Association of Regression Therapy, and has been working to establish a common quality training standards with the leading regression therapy training organisations in Europe.

He is the author of a few books. The first one is “Healing the Eternal Soul,” which is recognized as an extremely valuable contribution and advancement to the regression therapy field. His second book is “Exploring the Eternal Soul,” which takes us further into the new area of life between lives. His latest book “Transforming the Eternal Soul” has juts been published and includes a chapter on how the medical world are starting to embrace regression therapy.

Hi, Andy. Thanks for speaking with us today all the way from UK.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Good. Thank you. I’m really pleased to be here.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, this is a really interesting subject to me – regression therapy – because it’s very new. I’ve never heard of it before. A lot of our listeners may not have heard of regression therapy as a profession before either. Could you tell us a bit about the profession of past life regression therapy, how you got into it, and what it means to you?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, okay. I think just to explain to everybody. The word “regression” means to go back to the source of the problem. So the source of the person’s problem could be something that happened in this life or their timeline is extended to go beyond that and into stories that have all the appearance of being their past life.

By going back to the source of the problem, it’s possible to actually heal it in a way that’s much deeper and much more profound than therapies that don’t do that. For example, if you look at that like getting a thorn in our skin, we could either try to put a plaster and to heal the surface. The outward signs may look like it’s healed, but there will still be the thorn buried deep in there. Or we could go in and actually remove the thorn and healing takes place. This is really what regression is about. It’s really enabling people to go to the source of the problem and be able to heal up.

JOHN PETROZZI: So what do you mean “going to the source of the problem”? Do you mean going to the source of the problem that actually happened not in our present lifetime, from our birth to our current age? Do you mean some of this happened previous to that in a past life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, certainly stories emerge that have all the appearance of being a past life. Therapists who work in this area don’t necessarily go out to try to prove or disprove the story. It’s simply the therapeutic power that these stories bring in the healing process.

If one was to examine whether past lives are real or not, there would be a need to really look at the work of other people. For example, if you or I had a story emerged and we thought it was a past life, someone else could listen to that and say, “Yes, but it could perhaps it could just be a buried memory or something that was forgotten or something that was read about, and somehow it just comes to the surface.”

JOHN PETROZZI: So it’s something imagined?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Whether past lives are really real has to go to a different source, and this is through the work of a wonderful pioneer in this area called Dr. Ian Stevenson. He specialised working with children who had what appeared to be spontaneous past lives. Ian Stevenson is a professor – or certainly was, as he is recently deceased –of Para-psychology at the University of Virginia in the United States.

This is a person with a very well respected position. When he went out to investigate these stories of what appeared to be spontaneous past lives, he went about it like a detective, gathering all the information, interviewed all of the witnesses, checking for signs of deceit by going back that many years later. He wrote the case studies of 2,600 children, all of which appear to have past life experiences.

I mean, for example, one child that he investigates has been in a small village in India. As soon as she could speak, she started to talk about her other family and her other home. Her parents who lived in a small rural village, where there is no media or TV, started to get a little concerned about this, and decided to take this little girl to this village that she was talking about to prove to her that the house that she described to her parents just didn’t exist, thinking hopefully the youngster would stop talking about the event.

They went on this trip to this other village, and there was a house exactly as it was being described, and they knocked on the door. When the owner of the house came and they asked whether there was a young girl of a particular name, the person at the door went rather white and explained that it had been his daughter and that she died nine years previously, and invited this family in. They went through a whole series of exercises to test how valid the recall of this youngster was.

Now a lot of the value in these stories is in all the details. Things like she was able to remember going to a wedding and having a problem with diarrhoea and having to go to the toilet. Now this isn’t a sort of thing that people would normally remember except the person themselves, even able to describe where his favourite toy was being hidden. The parents pulled back a little stone, and there was the toy exactly being described. Altogether with this one child Professor Stevenson gathered 49 separate pieces of evidence that couldn’t be explained away by anything other than reincarnation.

Certainly, it appears that there’s a lot of evidence to support that at least some people have past lives. Of course, with young children, all the alternative explanations just don’t apply, simply because they’re not exposed to other sources of information. But it does raise rather interesting questions, even if some people do have past lives like children, does that mean to say everybody has past lives? Does that mean to say that people who experience past lives in hypnosis, are real or not?

I think that’s its really up to everybody to make up their own mind, but certainly, it seems to most rational thinkers, if you can establish beyond doubt that at least one person or several people have past lives, it would be very strange that only some people have past lives and not others. I think this is where rational thinking needs to apply with looking at the evidence.

JOHN PETROZZI: So with past lives, why do we forget them and why did these particular people in Dr. Stevenson’s studies, why did they remember them? Is it because they’re children still? It’s very, very close to them being born? Why don’t we actually remember these things consciously in our human everyday life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, the answer to that is that if we were to remember where we came from ourselves, then we’re coming from a place of unconditional love. If we were to remember the unconditional love there, everybody would get homesick and want to go back.

Certainly, for a lot of people, to remember all of the past lives as a child could be quite overwhelming. So the natural process is to remove those memories at the point where the baby is created, but sometimes some of the memories do linger for a little while. These are some of the examples that Ian Stevenson’s been working with.

But for most people, their memories are still available to them at a subconscious level. In fact, when people go into altered state, such as using hypnosis, and the conscious mind becomes less active, it’s possible to tune in to these memories. Of course, children find it’s much easier to tune into these sort of memories because their heads aren’t full of all the facts and figures and thoughts and so on that our critical mind accumulate over our lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: So, can we actually go into one of these meditative states and do some self-discovery with past life regression, or do we need to go to a past life regression therapist as yourself to delve into the past life memories?

ANDY TOMLINSON: It really depends on what people want to do. If people want to just tune in and touch some small aspects of a past life out of curiosity, then there are quite a lot of different ways of doing this. There are CDs that people can purchase that may in fact do that. Often, when I do one-day workshops, I have group sessions and I tune groups in and allow them to get in touch with parts of a past life. But that’s totally different than working with people in a therapeutic session-

JOHN PETROZZI: I understand. So that’s more out of curiosity, is it?

ANDY TOMLINSON: -quite a lot of skills are needed. It’s almost like if we were to go for surgery or perhaps some problem that we have, maybe open-heart surgery, we’d really want to make sure we would go to someone who’d be professionally trained and certified and have the experience to do the operation well. It’s a little bit the same when people go in for therapy, even though past lives are involved, it’s important people are trained professionally, because our soul is just as important as our heart.

JOHN PETROZZI: Because that’s really what you’re doing, isn’t it? You mentioned before that it’s like going back to the point of trauma taking out the thorn. That’s really what a past life regression therapy session is, isn’t it? It’s really taking out the essence of what happened way back then so it doesn’t affect you now.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Yeah. So it’s probably easiest to illustrate that with a case study.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yes, please.

ANDY TOMLINSON: One that immediately springs to mind, because it was quite dramatic, was a lady who had pain in her hands and fingers and arms. This pain would be something that she’d been living with for many, many years. It’s an incredibly high level of pain, and according to the medical doctors, when they were examining her in the hospital, it was one level of pain higher than someone dying of terminal cancer.

JOHN PETROZZI: Wow, that’s extreme.

ANDY TOMLINSON: This pain was so intense that if she tried to do simple things like holding something, holding a cup, this would trigger the pain, and the pain would get more intense. This was something that she was experiencing the whole time 24 hours a day. In all the tests that she had done by the medical doctors, it was just unexplainable pain and no one had an answer for it. She tried to have some painkillers but the side effects from the painkillers were so strong that she was unable to do that.

When she went into a regression session, she appeared to go into a past life in 16th century as a young girl working in an orphanage. In the orphanage, her job was to look after the children. These were children who’d been left destitute, and the orphanage had taken them over and was looking after them. At some point, there was a fire in the orphanage and this young girl tried to rescue the children unsuccessfully, and in the process, badly burned her hands. By not being able to rescue these children she was responsible for and that she had so much love with, she got such an intense guilt that she committed suicide. But she left that life with guilt and all the burns and the pains in her hands and arms.

In this life, she had had various relationship problems and had felt guilty about what was happening to her children. This guilt had triggered this unexplainable pain. The way that past life regression therapies work is not only to explore the past life but to transform it.

JOHN PETROZZI: It’s amazing.

ANDY TOMLINSON: By transformation, it means that it enables the client to become aware of things differently. It enabled her to become aware that she had tried everything that she could do. There wasn’t anything else she could have done. In the process of discovering that and of letting go of the guilt, and also of working with the situations in her current life, whether it be guilt, and releasing those, the pain went.

JOHN PETROZZI: What a chain reaction!

ANDY TOMLINSON: She’s able now to do all the simple things in life that she couldn’t do before, hold a knife and fork and hold her children’s hands, and she lives a perfectly normal life.

JOHN PETROZZI: Without pain.

ANDY TOMLINSON: This had such a profound effect on her that not only did it take away a lot of the symptoms, but it transformed her spiritual awareness to the point where she wanted to become a past life therapist herself to be able to help heal other people in exactly the same way that she had this wonderful healing herself.

JOHN PETROZZI: It’s extraordinary. Does that mean, in essence, that if we do, let’s just call it a bad date or a bad action in a past life, will it come back and haunt our current life? People have heard of Karmic energy, that if you do something bad in a past life, you’ll be paying for that deed in your current life until you’ve righted it. In your understanding of how past life occurs, do you believe that there’s an issue that needs to be dealt with in our present life?

ANDY TOMLINSON: I’d like to use words slightly differently than the ones you used.

JOHN PETROZZI: Go for it.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Words like “good and bad judgement.”

JOHN PETROZZI: That’s right.

ANDY TOMLINSON: One thing that happens at the soul level, at the spiritual level, is the complete freedom of making judgements, that each soul is respected for the decisions that they make. Each experience is considered a learning opportunity. If souls are chosen to have a particular life and to experience a certain aspect of being in the human body and it’s not complete, when the part that isn’t complete gets weld over into another lifetime so that completion can take place.

JOHN PETROZZI: What do you mean “not complete,” Andy?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, I mean, for example, supposing someone in a past life had chosen to come down to learn about power by experiencing not having power. For example, there was a client that I had that I worked with, that in her current life would be in abusive situations. First, her parents physically abused her, then, when she met her husband, he abused her. She had a string of boyfriends and they similar things, either physical, psychological abuse. There was something in her energy space that just attracted a certain type of person into her life. These were people who are taking power away from her, and she was experiencing powerlessness.

When she regressed, she regressed into a past life of being in Victorian England, which she started off as a homeless little child, but eventually found a job working in one of the Victorian laundries, which involved heating dirty clothes and filling them – this is really before the days of washing machines – and worked 16 hours a day in this laundry, which was virtually slave labour.

Then one day, this wealthy gent took a liking to her and married her. She thought this was all her dreams being answered, but it turned out that this particular Victorian gentleman wasn’t quite what he seemed and took his frustrations of business life out on her and beat her. She said, “Well, what can I do? I don’t have any family to go to. I don’t have any money,” because in Victorian England, all the money belonged to the males. She said, “If I go and report him, he is someone that gives money to charity and is seen as an important person, who’s going to believe me? I’ve come from a poor, uneducated background.”

So she just accepted the beatings. She lost her power in that situation. Eventually, the beatings became so bad that with one of the beatings, she fell down the stairs and she died with aches and pains all over her body and helplessness. And because that life sort of ended before she’d been able to reclaim her power, then she’d gone into her current life almost finding the same sort of patterns were occurring.

Just as in her past life where there were these aches and pains on her body, in her current life, whenever she was experiencing the helplessness, then these mysterious unexplainable pains – certainly the medical people would refer to them as unexplainable – reoccurred. Of course, it’s very understandable where these pains came from in looking at it in the bigger picture by having the knowledge of the incomplete past life.

So by going into that past life, we’ve been able to reclaim her power back with therapy. Also by working with her character from her current life, she was able to go back to her current partner and say to him, “Treat me well or leave me.” It sounds incredibly easy to say, but when someone’s had a whole life, or in this case, even past lives of experiencing helplessness, it’s extremely hard to say those words.

So in being able to do that and to bring in all of these experiences into the here and now in her current life, her boyfriend left and her aches and pains never came back. She found that she was able to enter into a different type of relationship, a relationship with someone who could give her love, instead of taking her power. There is a need to find completion, to find the answers, and once the answers were found, the lesson that the soul has chosen is complete. Then the pain can go because it’s not needed. The pains, either physical or emotional, are there just to remind us at a conscious level of something we need to attend to.

JOHN PETROZZI: So how does one know when they could probably benefit from seeing a past life regression therapist. What are the signs, and when does someone know that he needs to see someone about it?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, there are a lot of wonderful therapists around, and I would really suggest that people go to a therapist with something that resonates for them, either the therapist themselves or the type of therapy. But when the therapies that are offered really don’t get deep enough, they don’t really heal it at the appropriate level, then that’s probably the time to seek out someone who can work with past lives, because the thing that’s really important in this process is, first of all, it’s working in an altered state, such as hypnosis.

In hypnosis, what happens is our thoughts and our mind, they’re full of all sorts of things. The critical analysis type mind, the thoughts that we pick up as children from our parents, thoughts that we’ve inherited from our culture – all of these become less and less and drift into the background, and our true conscious mind and our soul can come together with the source of the problem and transform it. That’s the thing that makes regression therapy so powerful.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, with your permission, I’d like to go a little bit deeper and ask you some questions about the soul, because we’ve mentioned the soul about a few times in the interview so far. What is the soul? We’ve all got one. Or do we all have one? You mentioned also that we choose a time to come down, come down from where? And we have lessons to learn; where do we decide which lessons to learn and how to learn them? It is a bit of a deep question, but I’d love to go into it a little bit.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Okay. Well, everything we see in physical form is an invisible hand. I prefer to use the word “The Ultimate Source” rather than using words like “God” or so on, because sometimes, if you use words like that, it associates you with specific religion. In some people’s mind, it can be misinterpreted. I think most scientists realise that behind the wonders of the universe, there’s something that’s more profound and can be explained purely through physical form, and it’s this oneness that’s the source of everything that happens.

Souls are small fragments from the oneness that are created deliberately to have their own unique experience. The experience that exists in the spiritual realms of spirit is pure unconditional love. To really appreciate unconditional love, then the individual souls seek out being in human form to experience something different than unconditional love. After experiencing that, it enables them to appreciate unconditional love all the more when they return.

JOHN PETROZZI: I understand.

ANDY TOMLINSON: So, I’d like to explain reincarnation in a way almost through a metaphor. It’s almost like those old-fashioned divers with steel helmets on their head and an air pipe all the way back up to the mother ship. What used to happen with those divers is that they used to decide whereabouts in the ocean they were going to have to dive, and then the person would get into the dive suit, the hat would be put on, the air supply would start, and then the diver would slowly be lowered down onto the seabed.

Then on the seabed, the diver had free will where to go. But there’s a limit to how far the diver could go because of the amount of time that they’re down there, and of course, because there is an air pipe linking them from the mother ship. Then at the end of the day, when the diver completed whatever mission had been assigned to them, they would slowly come all the way back up to the mother ship, bringing back with them whatever experiences they had down on the seabed.

A part of our soul breaks up and goes into reincarnation, and the air pipe is almost like the link between the part of ourselves in human form and the other part that sometimes people refer to as a “higher self.” We have our experience on earth in whatever areas been planned forth and then when we come back, we bring back that experience.

JOHN PETROZZI: Okay.

ANDY TOMLINSON: It’s about learning different aspects and going through a whole wide range of emotions. When the soul has finally been able to master everything that can happen on earth in all the possible sort of situations you could imagine over many hundreds or thousands of lifetimes, they become masters. They often then act as guides and helpers of other souls that are relatively newer.

These spirits of light that have mastered everything are the source of very profound wisdom. This is one of the areas experienced when I work with clients and take them into memories between past lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: All right. You tell us some more.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Now, for this sort of experience, people really need to be in deep level of hypnosis in order to fully connect with those memories. They find out who they really are and what their purpose is for this life.

JOHN PETROZZI: And that’s happening, you mentioned, between lives.

ANDY TOMLINSON: Yes. Now, this work is based on the pioneering work of Michael Newton, who spent 30 years of his lifetime perfecting a lot of these techniques and has written some wonderful books on the subject.

JOHN PETROZZI: Do you know what these books are called?

ANDY TOMLINSON: There’s one in particular called “Journey of Souls,” where he describes in great detail what happens between lives. Also quite a number of people that have been trained by him and also quite independently, a number of psychologists and psychiatrists who have been investigating this area have found that some of the major events are very, very similar. There’s a lot of commonality here. My book on the subject is called “Exploring the Eternal Soul”.

So all for all, in excess of 10,000 people in all of the major cultures of the world, regardless of their previous religious theories, have experienced very similar types of events between past lives, which must make this one of the most amazing piece of research into past life regression.

JOHN PETROZZI: Okay. And what are these experiences between lives? Because essentially, we’re not, as you say, reincarnated as a human being here on earth have any experience, we’re still in the – I’m not too sure where it is – but we’re still in a soul form. So what’s actually happening there between these lives? Because we’re not material; we’re still some other energy form or frequency, whatever you want to call it. What is actually happening out there and what are the commonalities in the experiences that were observed with Michael Newton?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, the first thing is the actual death point. What happens at the death point is the soul leaves the physical body. It leaves the intensity of any physical pain at that time. It takes with it all of the intense energy of the emotions and the memories of some aspects of that physical pain.

The first thing that it does in the light is to receive healing, to wash away this intense energy, or sometimes, it stays earth-bound.

JOHN PETROZZI: As a ghost?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Certainly do stay as a ghost. In some cases, people die suddenly, and their spirit doesn’t actually realise this Souls are attracted by excessive grief of loved ones at the death point, and try to stay behind and communicate to them. Sometimes they may have some success, but it’s the sympathy for those that are being left behind that can sometimes cause them not to go immediately to the healing and the journey they go on.

There’s a lot of similarity in the descriptions of the death experience with reports of near-death experiences, which millions of people around the world have experienced. After the healing and after the shedding of this intense energy, people talk about an expansion of their energy, of feeling lighter, getting to their normal level of vibration. At this point, they’re just pure energy, and of course, everything is energy. We know this from Einstein.

One of the things that can happen is that sometimes, for their own comfort, souls can project their thoughts and their desire to have a world around them that appears to be familiar, such as trees or fields, lots of buildings or even a temple. They can create the perception of that around them, but in reality, its just pure energy.

Sometimes, other souls that come and meet them can project themselves in human form as well. This is very much purely for the benefit of the incoming soul. Death is seen as a time of great rejoicing in the spiritual realms, of coming back home, and people talk about the intense joy of just being connected again with fellow souls. It becomes part of celebrations.

It’s interesting that from a human perspective, we see death as a time of sadness, and yet the spiritual perception of death is a time of coming back home, of reunions. When we see a birth, they see this as a time of rejoicing. Although there is not negative emotions in the spiritual realm, certainly when souls are taking some difficult earth assignment, it’s almost like the farewell of old friends leaving to go on a difficult task. We see birth as a time of celebration. So they see things in a completely different way than we do from a human perspective.

One of the most important parts of what happens between lives is to review the past lives. It’s often accompanied by some sort of spiritual help. Quite often, this is through a spirit guide. Spirit guides are evolved spirits that know all about the life plan of the soul, have been overseeing it during the human incarnation, and they’re there to help the soul understand how well or not the objectives for that life are being achieve.

I’ll be back to give you an example of how that works.

JOHN PETROZZI: That would be great.

ANDY TOMLINSON: A person in a past life was a religious person in medieval Europe. They did talk about confessions, so one would assume that it was with one aspect of the Christian religion. He was getting rather bored with the confessions and decided that the only way to progress was to buy the way up and to buy a more senior position inside the church. At that time in medieval Europe, that was one of the practices that existed.

In order to do that, he league with some robbers. The arrangement was the robbers would steal some gold from one of the large houses nearby, and the priest would hide their gold in a crypt, which was a small area down the stairs underneath some stone slab that only the priest knew about. Then when everything about the robbery being forgotten, that gold would be brought out and split equally between the robbers and the priest, and then they could both go on their way.

The gold was stolen and kept down in the crypt, but unfortunately, before the gold was used, some raiders came to the local village on horseback; burning houses, killing, raping people. The local villagers came to the priest and said, “Please help us. Please put us somewhere safe.” The priest didn’t really know what to do and thought, “Well, the only safe place is down those steps in that small crypt, where the gold is.”

Without hesitation, he led all these people into this area, put the stone back to seal it, and then went out to confront these raiders, holding a cross, frightening them with hell and damnation and scaring them away. When he came back to pull the stone slab back, it turned out that all the people had died of suffocation, being crowded into this place where the stone slab had sealed the air from them. And they were all dead!

The priest pulled them all out, took them on the ground outside the church, and at that point, made a vow that from this point onwards, he would only lead a life of helping others, a religious life. The first thing to do was bring the gold out. People at that time thought it was something that had come from the robbers. The priest gave the gold to all of the poor, and then lived the rest of his life helping everybody, almost like a saint, except this priest knew what had happened and didn’t tell anybody.

When the priest died, he was brought together with the spirit guide and started to review the life. The priest was saying, “Oh, what a terrible life. I killed all those people. Oh, what a disaster that life’s been.” The spirit guide said, “Well, look, it wasn’t your intention to kill all those people. It’s not the act that is important from the spiritual perspective; it’s the intention. The only intention that you had was a misuse of power, misuse of responsibility. Your responsibility was to help people and that’s the area that didn’t go entirely right.”

So in reviewing the past life, the first thing to note is nothing is ever hidden. The spiritual part of us, our soul, knows everything and remembers everything. The second part is that your own spirit guide is to help and advise. It’s down to every soul in the end to decide what they want to do. That soul decided that they wanted to have the next life working on the subject of responsibility in order to master that particular aspect, and went through a series of events which involved planning for the next life.

JOHN PETROZZI: Amazing link there. Can we do anything now in our current life to, or is there a need to communicate or meditate with or get messages from our spirit guides that are kind of like our guardian angels?

ANDY TOMLINSON: The spirit guides will be there for everybody. Everybody has got at least one. They also have other teachers that come in at various times in their life to help them. Whether they realise it or not, their spirit guides will be helping them in a specific way while we’re asleep. One of the things that happen during sleep is that information will be passed in a helpful nature that will slowly come to conscious awareness.

Sometimes, they help by planting suggestions. For example, when lives are planned – and it’s not possible to plan every single detail of our life, because it’s just simply too complex, all the possibilities that can occur – so what tends to happen is the planning tends to take place in small groups of souls, and this we refer to as “soul groups.” It’s not uncommon for souls to be together for hundreds of lifetimes playing different roles. Sometimes, a soul may be a father, and another soul as a son. In fact, in the next life, they play different roles. In one life maybe one is a perpetrator and the other’s a victim, and in the next life they can play a different role.

Within the soul groups, they can plan and arrange to meet. They agree a trigger when in human form to recognise something about the people they meet. To help the process along, the spirit guides may help with suggestions for these meetings to occur.

So spirit guides are communicating to us all the time, but sometimes it can be quite hard for us to always hear that. There are times when we simply don’t hear it at all. It’s a little bit like having a little radio. If we get an awful lot of static on the radio, we can’t hear the signal. All we hear is the static. So we have to reduce the level of static and then we can hear the music quite clearly.

That static is all of the thoughts that go through in our mind, such as “I got to get the washing in today,” or “I got to pick up the children from school.” The way of reducing the level of static is through meditation or to use self-hypnosis tapes, which is another way of enabling people just to relax and to allow these thoughts that are charting through the mind just to become less and less troublesome.

JOHN PETROZZI: How about dream then?

ANDY TOMLINSON: The other thing is obviously you can ask to be connected with a spirit guide. You have to listen.

JOHN PETROZZI: You mean ask specifically, like out loud or in our thoughts?

ANDY TOMLINSON: You can make the intention of asking a spirit guide whatever it is that you wish to know. Now, the information can come through in lots of different ways. When people are rather new to this, they may find it quite hard to always fully connect Sometimes, they may just get a feeling of what’s being said or they may get thoughts popping into their head, or they may even get an image that’s projected. That’s the way the spirit guide communicates. The spirit guide may show themselves in human form from one the spirit guide’s previous past lives, in a way that just helps a person recognise them.

Quite often, a lot of people find it helpful to go to intuition development groups.

JOHN PETROZZI: What are they?

ANDY TOMLINSON: These are opportunities to work together with like-minded people and to do fun exercises that are designed just to help us become a little bit more aware of spirit guides. Now of course, people that are trained to be past life regression therapists would be trained to use hypnosis and that makes the whole process an awful lot easier, because in deep levels of hypnosis, most people are able to communicate quite rapidly and quickly with spirit guides. In fact, they’re often brought in as part of the transformational process, because often they give profound information that’s exactly what the person needs to move forward with their lives.

JOHN PETROZZI: Wow, that’s fascinating. Really, it’s fascinating. I have so many questions to ask, Andy, but we’re coming close to the end of the show. Are there any closing remarks or comments you’d like to leave our listeners with?

ANDY TOMLINSON: Well, I think the first thing that I would suggest to everybody is to become aware of who you really are. This is all about becoming aware of our spiritual side. I’m just going to read a short excerpt, and this is from a client that I had a life between lives session that I think illustrates how the process of discovering who you really are begins.

It says, “Although I feel it, my words cannot do it justice. This was to me an extremely profound experience. It put a lot of issues in my life into context and enabled me to look at the bigger picture in terms of the journey of my energetic soul. I can only say thank you to the universe for giving me a glimpse of my soul. It was magical, wonderful, and a humbling experience. It touched me. It changed my view of life. It opened my eyes, my heart, and my soul to greater calm. I have an understanding, love and respect for life and others in their journey, for the universe and for myself.”

Not everybody would have an experience like that, but as people become more aware of who they really are, having their own personal experience or by reading books on the subject, it will enable them to start thinking about things in a completely different way.

JOHN PETROZZI: Andy, just thanks again for all your knowledge today. I really appreciate your messages. Your thoughts and examples have been awe-inspiring and eye-opening. Could you give us again a contact detail that you have, in terms of websites that we can learn more about regression therapy and about yourself and other readings possibly?

ANDY TOMLINSON: There are two websites I’d like people to consider looking at. The first is the website that I have. It’s www.regressionacademy.com. That has a number of books. It has a lot of links to other websites, also therapists. The other website is a Life Awareness program, and this is based on some wonderful work by Tony Winninger and Peter Jenkins, who I’ve been working very closely with. Their website is www.lifeawareness.org. If you want to read any of the books or to browse it as websites, then that’s the source.

JOHN PETROZZI: Fantastic. That’s great, Andy. Thanks again. We really appreciate it.

You’ve been listening to Living is Easy with John Petrozzi. Until next time, stay well and stay happy.