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Don Tolman: WHOLE FOOD

JOHN PETROZZI: Hi. Welcome to Living is Easy. I’m John Petrrozzi.

Today, you’ve joined us on a really exciting day because we’ve got the larrikin of whole foods, the cowboy of whole foods, Don Tolman, who’s going to be speaking about whole foods, diet, nutrition, and I’m sure a whole lot of other pills, as well. Don is here at the moment on a speaking engagement.

Yeah, Don, thanks for coming on the show today.

DON TOLMAN: Well, thanks, John. I love what you’re doing. It’s a pleasure just to be a part of it. Thank you.

JOHN PETROZZI: Don, I saw you speak a couple of years ago here in Sydney, and you inspired me to start taking a closer look at my own diet. I’m a chiropractor—that’s my background—and you know, the body can heal itself given the right opportunity.


JOHN PETROZZI: In terms of whole foods and diet, what do you think our Western society is doing at the moment? Does it have it right or does it have it wrong?

DON TOLMAN: You know, it’s so interesting because people in modern, developed countries have the sickliest population base of any of the countries in the world. Yet, we have more doctors, more hospitals, more this, more that, more medicines, more, more, more, more, more; yet, there’s more cancer every year, more diabetes every year, more disease every year.

You stop and you look at it, and you realise it’s like you’re pointing out- it comes down to people walking away from the war on disease, laying down all the weapons of war and going back and embracing preferably mostly locally grown plant whole foods, because they contain the electric force or bio-photons which is referred to as nutrition, which means “process of life,” and that’s where health comes from.

But no, we run down to fast foods and different restaurants that provide packaged food, and none of that contains what it is that the cells identify with in order to maintain health and vitality.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Yeah. It’s not something that we can get out of a vitamin tablet, is it?

DON TOLMAN: Not at all. That is such a marketing scam. Good grief! It is so crazy.

And most people don’t even realize there’s not a single plant on this earth, not one, that doesn’t contain every vitamin, every mineral, every enzyme, all 200,000 identifiable proteins. Every plant has it, including grass. That’s why huge animals like horses and oxen, elephants, all they eat is plant, and look at their strength and their health. It’s amazing.

JOHN PETROZZI: So should we sort of go towards more of a- are you suggesting more of a vegan diet or a diet that’s sort of stays away from meats and things? Or are you just saying, “Eat the steak, eat the meat; just make sure that it’s lacking chemicals and fairly raw,” would you say?



DON TOLMAN: You know, it’s interesting because this whole idea of raw goes back to the Egyptian term which was their name for the sun-


DON TOLMAN: -Ra. And what it meant when you ate raw, you were honoring the temperatures of the sun and the earth over the seasons throughout the year. So they went with “If it’s warm season, the water content goes through the roof.” It’s like watermelon, rock melon or cantaloupes, and honey dew and all the water content goes way high. So, during those warm, warm seasons, you didn’t cook the locally in-season grown foods unless there were those things that came forth with small water content, then, it was okay to heat those; it would not cause chaos in the body and that was a raw diet.

So like in the fall or the autumn, when the season starts to cool off, the water content goes down, and things like apples and pears and stuff like that start to show up. As it gets colder in the season, there’s low-water content foods that were designed to be heated and would not create chaos or disharmony or dis-ease or discomfort in the body, such as beans and legumes and lentils, hard squash, pumpkin. And then in the spring, the berries would come out.

So, your body, when the viscosity of the blood (the thickness or thinness) is in harmony with the temperatures, that’s what a raw food diet meant. Today, it means “Don’t cook anything.”

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Exactly.

DON TOLMAN: That, over time and distance of the human experience, is not shown to be necessary, and at times not even wise.

So this whole thing of the foods and eating in season, going vegan, going vegetarian, the whole idea of long-lived cultures that were disease-free was that if something has a mommy or a face, don’t be violent, don’t kill it. It has a life. It’s an earthling. It wants to live. So the nice thing, the way that they determined what was edible was if it doesn’t holler and scream and run trying to protect its life or the life of its young, it’s edible.


DON TOLMAN: That’s what I love about fruits and vegetables and grains, and even eggs, and even naturally fermented organic raw milk and cheese. You don’t have to sneak up on it. It doesn’t get up and run, you know.


DON TOLMAN: So, free-range eggs without all of the hormones and the feed and shots in the chickens and all of that crap that ruins it – fine; it’s awesome. And if someone wants to eat, you know, just pieces of the dead carcasses of animals, you can get away with it and live long, as long as you drink enough water, go for walk, get some sunshine and eat enough plant food, so that the fibers move that out of the body within 72 hours.


DON TOLMAN: You can be healthy.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Okay. Don, you know on the side of cereal packets and stuff that’s talked about—you know, even as young as in primary school—that pyramid of diet and nutrition, where you’ve got basically carbohydrates down the bottom (grains, beans, that sort of stuff), then just above it, it’s got proteins, milk products and those sorts of stuff, and then right up the top, it’s got fats and saturated fats. What do you think of that diagram, of that triangle, and if it’s no good, do you have an alternative?

DON TOLMAN:   You know, it’s so interesting, this whole- it’s literally a myth and a scam. What today is referred to as academic nutritional sciences. In hospitals and in different things where these doctors of nutrition come in and try to convince everybody that they know what they are saying—they’re just little puppets; they were good little students in the academic curriculum, champ memorizing pre-selected answers they stick in blanks—and now they think they know what they’re doing.

That’s what I love about these whole foods, and especially whole foods that don’t typically come in packages and have chemical analysis and breakdown. You can be as dumb as a sack of hammers and you can eat an apple and you got everything you needed. You know, you don’t need to know a hundred and twenty names of minerals and 20 vitamins and enzymes.


DON TOLMAN:   You don’t need to know any of that crap, you know. So they sit there and they convince you by the pictures on the label and the analysis that is there—so many grams of fat, so many carbohydrates—and people sit there and look at that and – oh my gosh, relax, have a beer.

JOHN PETROZZI: That’s great. A fermented beer, huh?

DON TOLMAN: Fermented, natural, organic, no motor oil or coal tar, which they call additives and preservatives.

JOHN PETROZZI: That’s great.

DON TOLMAN: You know, just the good stuff.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Don, I’ve got your encyclopedia. We purchased that a while ago. There’s a couple of letters in there at the beginning, and there’s one letter there addressed to you from someone who is actually sort of hit with a stage of cancer, where their doctor told them that they had a limited amount of time to live. They addressed a letter to you asking you for a bit of help and guidance with whole food diet. You suggested a diet in there of various things, and he has a second letter which is dated, this looks sort of four years later, and he’s still alive.


JOHN PETROZZI: Tell us about whole foods and how they can heal us. Are there some special, I suppose, tricks that we can use to try and figure out which foods are going to be the best for us at a particular time?

DON TOLMAN: Yeah. You know, there really is just a brilliant observational wisdom of our ancestors of the past, who, over time and distance, tested observational skills of plants and foods and what they appeared to target and to heal and to repair and even maintain within the human experience. It was a brilliant, brilliant wisdom. It was finally collected from all the different cultures around the earth and taken into the Alexandrian Library, but then in 326, all of the scholars and these people that were collecting it were murdered, Alexandria was burnt, and so we pretty much have lost our way and we feel like we’re at the mercy of authoritative credentialed experts. The problem with that is even though some of those people are sincere, they can be sincerely wrong because of their training.

What we need to do is slow down and realise that health and vitality and well being are a natural result of performing behaviours on a daily basis that support it. There’s no mystery. Good, clean air, good, clean water, sunshine, walking, plant, whole foods for the most of your diet, if not all of it, loving relationships, passion, and you stay healthy. You don’t get sick. The truth is there’s only one disease, not 17, 000 diseases that they have made up with 17th-century Latin to create fear and bullying and to sell you 561,000 pharmaceutical drugs that are all patented for over-the-counter prescription and all the miracle supplements.

The truth is there is only one disease and there are only two causes. Disease means discomfort. You feel discomfort in the body when at the atomic level, something is not right in its frequency and it creates a chaos in the atom, which effects a chaos in the molecules, which effects a chaos in the cells.


DON TOLMAN: And when the cells feel that chaos, it sends a signal of discomfort or dis-ease.


DON TOLMAN: There are only two things that create that dis-ease or discomfort: insufficiency and toxicity. Those are the two things that cause disease and discomfort.

JOHN PETROZZI: So essentially toxicity, the body can’t eliminate what it doesn’t need and-

DON TOLMAN: Exactly.

JOHN PETROZZI: Insufficiency, the body’s not getting what it needs.



DON TOLMAN: And/or people are swallowing toxic things.


DON TOLMAN: Then it builds up even worse. But yeah, and insufficiency means they’re not getting enough clean, moving air, they’re not getting enough water—or it’s toxified water because they throw in aluminum fluoride you know—and all these different things.

So those are the only two pathways of disease or discomfort. And there are only seven pathways that this can occur:

1.       through the eyes;

2.       through the ears;

3.       through the nostrils, the breathing passageways;

4.       the mouth and throat;

5.       the “front of the building down low,” the urinary tract;

6.       the “back door,” the digestive removal of the stool and waste; and

7.       through the skin.

That is it. And so, if people will start to look at insufficiencies and look at the behaviours that are toxic, and begin to eliminate them and clean up their house—clean up their body—then you heal. It’s a natural process, and I’ve seen it thousands and thousands of times. Even like the guy that you mentioned in the book. We have people that had been Stage Three and Stage Four cancers and they’ve been sent home to die. And as long as they stopped all their medication, and maybe do a little bit of water fasting for a few days and juice fasting, and/or just simply go on a fresh, locally grown, whole food diet, I have never seen this people not recover, as long as they don’t keep going back for medical treatment.


DON TOLMAN: You can’t serve two masters. You’ve got to choose health or you’ve got to choose the war and the fight on disease.

JOHN PETROZZI: Can I ask you a question on that, Don? Sometimes- it just reminds me of something that I learned back at uni and they spoke about the “triad of health,” which was, you know, you need to have these things in balance: Physical health needs to be in check, your chemistry needs to be in check, including your nutrition, and then autosuggestion or emotions. If someone’s created a disease in their body through stress, distress and emotional issues which has created an energy imbalance in the body, hasn’t allowed the body to sufficiently heal, through whole foods they’ll be changing the internal chemistry of their body and elimination, but do they have to address what’s going on inside their mind so that reoccurrence doesn’t occur?

DON TOLMAN: I think absolutely so. I mean, the ancient symbol of the “delta”—as it was called in the Greek, “daleth” in Hebrew—the triangle literally represented the mental, the physical and the emotional. That triangle is the strongest geometric shape or form. When we begin to take active possession and responsibility for our thoughts and acknowledging our emotions and our physical body and begin to perform behaviours that can remiss and strengthen and heal those things, and then you begin to look at foods — they realise that whole foods have a fragrance that affects the mind when you smell it, even affects the emotions and the neuro-chemistry of emotion that is developed within the hydronium fluids of the brain.


DON TOLMAN: Emotional molecules are very real as you know. A molecule of anger that the brain develops so you can feel that is real, just as real as a molecule of calcium or magnesium. Once that negative emotional molecule is in the body, our ancestors knew which color of food to eat during the day that you felt that emotion so that during the night, the frequency of that color of that food would target, and through a law of similarity—today, it would be called “photo electromagnetism”—it will be drawn to that emotional molecule, and the frequency of the color of the photons of light of that food attach to that emotional molecule and carry it to the urinary or excretory digestive tract for removal the next day-

JOHN PETROZZI: That’s interesting.

DON TOLMAN: When people don’t target and understand how to feed their emotion dietarily, boy, over time, they can just go down and down and down. And then, they get on to drugs, thinking that’s going to cure something. Typically, that is a downhill slide.



JOHN PETROZZI: An example, I suppose, of that is if you’re in a room that’s a bright, really bright, red color or  a really cranky black color, that’s going to have an effect on your moods if you’re sitting in there for a couple of hours, won’t it?

DON TOLMAN: Boy, it does.

JOHN PETROZZI: It’s the same sort of thing.

DON TOLMAN: You bet. It’s the exact same thing. And even the color of clothing that people wear. That’s why in the pharmacist desk reference, I put in there the thing about “feeding your emotion” so that people can understand that families of emotion, the genus of those things, which colors affect that so profoundly and even the notes of smell and how, even things like essential oil, like peppermint or lavender, can help us relax and sleep, or the qualities of what nature has provided that used to be such a brilliant wisdom and it needs to come back. That’s why I love what you’re doing.

JOHN PETROZZI: [0:17:49], Don. I’ve got a question just in terms of the re-emergence of energy medicine. What I understand of energy medicine is just this of what we’ve been talking about: Everything has got an energy. And it seems to be coming back out, because people are talking about “That doesn’t give me the right vibes,” or “I don’t feel right when I see that color or talk to that person.” Reiki is coming back. A whole lot of other modalities are starting to coming back again.


JOHN PETROZZI: How do you see I suppose the future of western society and the whole global society over the next, say, 50 to 100 years, if this re-emergence continues?

DON TOLMAN: I believe that what’s going on is a grassroots revolution that is going to build, not through marching and banners and bloodshed, but a revolution of individuals realising, “Oh, my gosh. We don’t need to fight disease. We need to embrace principles of health.” I think that what’s going to happen just in the next, like you’re saying, two to four decades is that what today we understand is healthcare—with pharmaceutical drugs, miracle supplements, doctors, hospitals, all these different things—is going to die and go away, and the only thing that will be there is the brilliant technologies of crisis and trauma such as accidents and stitching, flesh that has been torn too deep, or setting bones-

JOHN PETROZZI: Don, we’re almost out of time. Can we just play a little game here just in terms of foods. I know that you’ve got some ideas in terms of what whole food looks like and how it can benefit our health. So for instance, if we get a kiwi fruit and we chop it in half, and you look inside it, it looks beautiful.

DON TOLMAN: It does.

JOHN PETROZZI: What would that help us with?

DON TOLMAN: You know, it’s interesting because the kiwi fruit itself matches the patterns of the eye, the eyeball, and it also matches the patterns of the testicles in the male.


DON TOLMAN:  It shows that it actually targets the motility of the sperm and increases the semen, fullness of sperm in the male, bringing back fertility. But then also, it is tied to the eyeballs itself and it actually helps with sight as well.

JOHN PETROZZI: Okay .That’s a nice one. How about- another good one is broccoli.

DON TOLMAN: Yeah. It’s so fascinating when you look at broccoli and look at the branching.


DON TOLMAN: If you look at Gray’s anatomy and look at the dendrites and neurons and the structures of the brain, and broccoli comes in a head—and it’s our head—it literally targets the brain and today’s nutritional chemistry, which is the sulfuring that actually helps to remove [0:20:53] and plaque from the brain, restoring memory. There’s no doubt broccoli (because it looks like the brain) is absolutely a good brain food.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Wow. It’s a nice one. I have another one which is full of water, watermelon.

DON TOLMAN: Yeah. The brain is 93% water. Watermelon is 93% water. There used to be an ancient phrase for tap on your head, you say, “Well, knock on your old melon,” and they used to tap melons to see if they were ripe by the sound. And now, they know that watermelon absolutely targets the blood flow and capillary infusion of the brain and hydrates the brain mass – good brain food.

JOHN PETROZZI: Yeah. Nice one. What about bananas? Yeah, beautiful yellow fruit.

DON TOLMAN: Oh, yeah.

JOHN PETROZZI: I love them.

DON TOLMAN: They’re amazing. And anciently, they believed that each of us is created both male and female, and foods have either feminine or muscular signature. Like citrus kind of looks like the female breast, and if you slice it, it looks just like the mammary gland. The banana itself is a masculine signature and it actually does increase blood flow and increases the ease of an erection in the men.

JOHN PETROZZI: Wow. That’s a beauty. You’ve got all these information from your travels around the world, is that right?

DON TOLMAN: Yes, it’s interesting. I went into all kinds of ancient archives and things and finally stumbled on the signature science of natures of food, that there is the law of similarity: that if the food looks like an organ, it targets that specifically. It’s good for the whole body by increasing the capacity and function of that organ, like walnuts look like the brain with left and right hemisphere, convoluted wrinkles on the nut just like the neocortex.


DON TOLMAN: Celery looks like a bone, snaps like a bone. Now, they know it [remises] osteoporosis in as little as six months. And it just goes on and on. The avocado is the woman’s cervix and the little babies are the swollen seeds; it takes nine months to grow an avocado, and now they know it balances feminine hormones, overcomes complication in delivery, and helps a woman shed unwanted baby fat. Kidney beans, it’s no accident we call it “kidney beans,” and now they know they target the kidneys and bring healing and repair and function.

JOHN PETROZZI: Just amazing, Don.

DON TOLMAN: Cool stuff.

JOHN PETROZZI: It is.  You’re speaking in Sydney, I think, later this week in Melbourne?



DON TOLMAN: In fact, we have three cities still in front of us. We’re doing Adelaide tonight, but Wednesday in Sydney at 6:30, people can go there and register or they can do it online at, but we’re at the Shangri-la at The Rocks in Sydney starting at 6:30. And then Thursday, we’re in Melbourne at the Bayview Eden, and then Friday, we’ll be in Brisbane at the Sebel & Citygate.


DON TOLMAN: Yeah. So, man, any of you listening and that would love to come to this, we’d love to have you. And I hope to see you again soon too, Josh.

JOHN PETROZZI: Oh, definitely, Don. I enjoyed it last time. It’s full of people, too, thousands of people. It’s great. Thanks, Don for coming on the show. I really appreciate your time.

DON TOLMAN: I really appreciate you, and keep up the awesome part of the revolution.

JOHN PETROZZI: Oh, that’s for sure.

DON TOLMAN: Thanks, John.

JOHN PETROZZI: And that was Don Tolman, the legend of whole food, and if you do get a chance to get down, there it’s in Sydney and Melbourne, but go to that website,, and you’ll get the details. I’m fairly sure there are free tickets, too, so get down there.

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Until next time – I’m John Petrozzi – stay well and stay happy.

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