This week I spoke to the famous American psychic and medium, John Edward. Listen to the podcast called John Edward, June 2010. He talks about being psychic, self psychic protection, intuition and ESP. Imagine being able to talk and communicate to spirits on the other side. Have a listen and let me know what you think. As always Stay Well and Stay Happy. đ John Petrozzi
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John Edward talks about the afterlife, June 2010, transcript of the interview.
John Petrozzi: Hi and welcome to Living is Easy. Today weâve got our special guest on the show again today, John Edward, you may have heard Johnâs last interview on our show, some time ago. I really love having John on the show because heâs a really good guy and he makes such a huge impact on peoplesâ lives. Hi, John, and thanks for coming on the show again.
John Edward: No problem. How are you?
John Petrozzi: Really well, thanks. Hey â John â youâre here for a tour at the moment?
John Edward: I am. Iâm actually here doing promotion for my tour in November. Iâm coming back in November.
John Petrozzi: Ah, coming back in November?
John Edward: Yes.
John Petrozzi: Fantastic. So â you know when people sort of stop you on the street? Or ask you questions on what you do â how do you describe to them what you actually do?
John Edward: Well, usually I just tell them that I act as a bridge or a medium, a conduit to people who have crossed over; to pass on their messages to the living people who are in their lives.
John Petrozzi: Okay. And youâve had this gift since you were a kid, as I understand it.
John Edward: Iâve had it my entire life, but it was kind of… awoken at the age of fifteen.
John Petrozzi: And your grandma helped you develop your skills?
John Edward: Well, I think my mom and my grandmotherâs involvement in metaphysics and their interest in psychic phenomena helped to provide the opportunity, or the catalyst, for me to meet the woman who would put me on this path. Her name is Lydia Clar and she did a reading for me. And from that reading, thatâs what opened up this whole world.
John Petrozzi: So from that instance, having a reading, were you… did you already know that you had some sort of a skill?
John Edward: No, not at all actually.
John Petrozzi: Really? Â You were just a regular sort of kid…
John Edward: Yeah, I didnât really think anything of it. I always had an interest in things that were other worldly, or that show powers, or superhero-like things, but nothing… nothing metaphysical.
John Petrozzi: It must have blown you away when you first started to communicate â was it scary?
John Edward: I wouldnât say that it blew me away, and I wouldnât say I was scared… much more the word âexplorationâ, I feel like I was exploring new territory and trying to learn about it. Itâs like driving in Australia for me. As Iâm driving around Iâm in new territory and Iâm seeing new things and new places, but the more often I drive around the same roads the more I recognize 7-11, and I recognize where certain stores might be, and where certain restaurants or hotels are… and then it becomes sort of like âthis is part of my understandingâ and thatâs what my ability was like for me. It was an exploration, almost like a mapping out of what my abilities are.
John Petrozzi: So are you still learning new aspects, new realms, and new energies?
John Edward: Always.
John Petrozzi: Always, yeah?
John Edward: Always. I would say that anybody who says that they do this work, and theyâre not a perpetual student of the universe, should no longer be doing it
John Petrozzi: So what have you been learning lately?
John Edward: Well, lately, Iâve been learning a lot about Astrology. And for me, I have been, I guess, a student of this metaphysical world for twenty-five years. And I just launched a website called infinitequest.com.
John Petrozzi: Yeah, yeah, I love it!
John Edward: Yeah, I talk all about … well I donât talk about it, but Iâve brought together a whole team of people who deal with different special arenas in metaphysics: Astrology, Numerology, Energy Healers, and people who do Tarot. And itâs a very interactive thing where people can actually go and learn, and weâre just about ready in the next few months to launch our first interactive web class, a series on the psychic-self, with the woman who was my teacher.
John Petrozzi: Isnât that amazing! Last time we had the interview, we talked about that website Infinite Quest and Iâve noticed that it has grown over the last little while.
John Edward: Yes, it has grown, we actually just moved up to version 2.0 and itâs really, like, really cool new bells and whistles, makes it a lot easier, aggregates content for people who have interests in specific arenas and areas.
John Petrozzi: âCause Iâm, like â my backgroundâs Chiropractic; I went on the section there about healing, and thereâs some amazing stuff on there.
John Edward: Oh cool, thank you! Iâll pass it on to the team back in New York.
John Petrozzi: Good!  Iâm really enjoying it. So John, what is the soul? What is a soul, what is a spirit?
John Edward: A soul or a spirit can be a synonym for energy. I think thatâs what we are; weâre energy. Call it a vibrational frequency. If you were to take a metal object and hit another metal object, itâs going to make a sound, and itâs going to reverberate. And that reverberating is energy; and that energy sometimes vibrates at such a high level that you canât see it, like a fan thatâs moving very quickly, or the blade of a helicopter. But then, when it slows down and it becomes slower, youâre able to see it. So, when energyâs moving slowly, it could be the being and the physical body. Itâs dense and you can see it, itâs manifesting in one way. When the soul leaves the body its vibration is not held or bound to the physical world, and so it vibrates at a higher frequency, but itâs still just energy.
John Petrozzi: I get that…
John Edward: Think about a cell phone. Youâre talking to me in person, weâre talking in a much more physical kind of up close and personal kind of way, but yet me being on the phone and talking to you via the phone, weâre still able to communicate via energy.
John Petrozzi: So â in terms of the soul, whatâs your belief and understanding of reincarnation? And, I suppose, also incarnation?
John Edward: Well, the word âcarnateâ means âof the fleshâ. So when something is to reincarnate, it means to become re-âof the fleshâ. So you go back to the body, basically. So, for me, if you use the word âdiscarnateâ or âexcarnateâ, somebody whoâs an excarnate would be a soul thatâs on the other side, and no longer of this world, while somebody whoâs discarnate is somebody whoâs the same thing, but who still has a physical world mentality. When somebody is in the flesh itâs known as being âincarnateâ so itâs like theyâre in the flesh. So for me, if somebody has crossed over and they choose to come back, then thatâs a reincarnation, âcome to the fleshâ.
John Petrozzi: Okay, so do we actually â do you think that weâve got a choice to come back? And do we have a choice in which body we come back to?
John Edward: I think itâs all about choice.  I think itâs about what weâre deciding as a soul, that we need to evolve, and progress, and I actually believe (I know many people do) that we choose the family- soul-grouping, we choose our parents, what part of the world we want to be in, socioeconomic backgrounds, because thatâs what will give us the opportunity to learn the lessons we need to learn. So for example if I need to learn how to use the language Spanish, Iâm not going to travel to China; Iâm going to travel to Spanish speaking countries, where I can actually utilize speaking the language that I have learned, or need to learn.
John Petrozzi: Okay. âChoicesâ, thatâs an interesting one… A lot of spiritual teachers say that â give the remark that â we are all One and we will return to One. Whatâs your understanding of us being One and all connected?
John Edward: Well, I totally believe that weâre connected and that you can say in some respects that weâre all One; one big organism. I mean, look at the planet as a whole. You know, thereâs a saying thatâs used widely in metaphysics and Astrology: As Above, So Below. So when you look at âAs Above, So Belowâ, if you look at the physical body, weâre made up of cells; many, many, many cells. Well, if each individual soul was a cell â cell versus soul â then that makes the planet the body. So itâs just a matter of perspective and seeing things with those eyes. Thatâs kind of how I look at life.
John Petrozzi: You know, that saying you just said reminds me of back at Chiropractic College, in the philosophy class, basically the nervous system controls every single cell in the body, every organ, system, and function. And they say that the nervous system works from above â down â inside-out â which is why we adjust the spine. So, in terms of souls, do you feel that the souls know when they need to come down, and they know when they need to sort of leave? Is death a choice?
John Edward: I do believe that the opportunity of coming and going is somewhat of a choice. If youâre going to take a flight to New York, youâre going to look at what the travel schedules of the different Airlines are, and youâre going to fly there based upon what you need to achieve and do. So then youâre going to take your flight. Some flights might not be as conducive for you, but youâre still going to go with the opportunity of taking it because itâs whatâs going to get you to the destination in the time period that you need to be there.
John Petrozzi: Okay, thatâs making sense. Then some other writers and spiritual teachers say that the purpose of our spirit coming down to earth, I supposing incarnating in the physical form, is to remember where we came from, which kind of confuses me. Iâve sort of muddled over this for years, and I donât quite understand why weâve forgotten what we need to remember. Can you shed some light on that one?
John Edward: I can try. I understand the dilemma that you might experience, or what youâre thinking about when you ask that question, because it seems kind of like an oxymoron. If you know it, why do you need to forget it to learn it again? Well, how about we look at it in a very, very basic way? You clearly have gone to university and college, and you have a background in Chiropracty, and I totally get that. But now, when was the last time you used trigonometry?
John Petrozzi: Whew! Not for while.
John Edward: Not for a while; when was the last time you had to balance out a chemical equation?
John Petrozzi: Only a couple of years ago… but yeah â I wouldnât be able to write one down right now.
John Edward: Exactly. There are certain things you learned, and then you forgot, but you kind of know them, but then in case you need to use them again you need to re-plug back in â you need to relearn those things again. So to try and make it as everyday as possible, thereâs things that you know; for example, if somebody immigrated here from a different country, if you have a family that came over from Italy, and that familyâs been here in Australia, theyâre predominantly going to speak English. As a family â as a unit â English will become their first language, and Italian might fall to the background a little bit. So when they go back to Italy theyâre going to have to re-remember to use what it is that they already know. It was part of who they are, but then the lesson is â going back to Italy puts them back into the mix to relearn it again. So think about it in terms of those examples. But itâs ultimately all about the purpose of the soul, itâs to evolve. To try and emulate, working through some of the lessons that we need to learn and to take some of the stuff that weâve learned at our home university, to bring it to work here on the earthâs university.
John Petrozzi: So projecting forward, say, another six, seven hundred years from now; if the earth is still at a point where itâs got civilizations and humans on it, does that mean that if the souls continue to evolve, theyâll be totally different from what we know as human beings right now?
John Edward: I think so, I think that weâre going to see, if we went back five or six hundred years from today, if we had a conversation with people back then, if you were able to do an interview five or six hundred years ago, I think that just the sheer level of technology and the advance that weâve had both in the sciences and…
John Petrozzi: In spirituality, too.
John Edward: Well, just science alone would have opened up so many things for us â some of the things people did medically or medicinally six hundred years ago are ridiculous right now, patently ridiculous. But there are also things that weâve forgotten from six or seven hundred years ago, that people now â in a homeopathic or holistic way â are going back to, with more of an organic approach to healthcare, and the understanding that our modern day medicine comes from being organic, from what the earth has given us.
John Petrozzi: Yeah.
John Edward: So, imagine now going forward five or six hundred years, what will the advances in technology be then? It really depends upon what framework weâre living in. What made sense five hundred years ago doesnât make sense today because of how weâre living and communicating, and how the opportunity for travel makes our world so much smaller, with the internet, so five or six hundred years from now? I canât even fathom how things will be
John Petrozzi: Can you actually â do you ever get messages from your guides and spirits about how things are going to turn out, in terms of future events?
John Edward: You know, I used to. Many, many years ago I would get more information, and I think it was more for me… it wasnât so much âLet me now predict the future and, oh wow!  Look at me, look how amazing I am!â It was more like âWeâre going to show you to pay attention to what weâre telling you, because these events are going to take place.â So Iâd get these hits on world events, or things that were very weird… I remember once standing in a hotel overlooking the city of Nashville. My wife was blow drying her hair behind me, we were getting ready to go downstairs to a dinner function, and I just blurted out that there was going to be an assassination of the President of a small state. And I remember thinking, âWhat an odd statement that is,â because in the United States we donât have Presidents of States, we have Governors; so it should have been like âTheyâre going to assassinate a Governor,â not the President of a State. But within a month or six weeks of that statement Yitzhak Rabin, the President of Israel, was shot.
John Petrozzi: Wow
John Edward: So, you know, stuff like that â when that comes up, it means… you know, I joke around now. Â Iâll say, âIâm listening to the Psychic News Network,â but I think a lot of the reasons I would get this information early on is so that I would pay attention to the other things.
John Petrozzi: So in terms of listening and hearing, do you hear spirits all the time?
John Edward: I donât hear them all the time. Itâs like a radio â the radioâs on all the time, you have radio shows and radio stations that go twenty-four-seven, TV stations going twenty-four-seven, but in order to actually hear or see them you have to turn the set on, and focus on the television, and in that respect I would have to turn the TV or radio of my psychic abilities on to play whatever it is happening around me in the world that we live in.
John Petrozzi: So is it a skill, a honed skill, a honed art?
John Edward: Absolutely.
John Petrozzi: In terms of the messages you get from spirits that have crossed, or are crossing, how do you know if there are messages coming from a dark side, or, you know, a non-materialized spirits that are giving you messages, but arenât quite correct?
John Edward: Well, I do believe that there is a positive and a negative energy.  Period. End of statement.  Whether itâs in the physical world, or in the afterlife, itâs a reality. Again, going back to science, we know that there are positive ions and negative ions, so why not have personalities being charged in the same way? That being said, my spirit guides, the ones Iâve been working with most of my life, they are there to act as â weâll call them security. To stop that kind of stuff from being able to infiltrate our sessions. So that stuff? It doesnât apply.
John Petrozzi: Have you had the same guides all the way through your life, or have you..?
John Edward: The majority of them have been hanging out with me since I took on this job, but I think a few of them have left, and some new ones have come in, because I see information changes from time to time, and Iâm like âWell thatâs… new.â Iâve gotten names and initials, but in the past year to eighteen months Iâm getting first names and middle names, and if Iâm not getting the middle name of the person, then I know that the two names I get belong to the same family, they go side by side. So if I get, say, John Robert, and Iâll say to them, âIs his middle name Robert or something like an âRâ like John Robert?â and theyâll say âNo,â so Iâll say âThen whoâs Robert connected to?â and theyâll say âWell, Robertâs his brother.â
John Petrozzi: Yeah, okay.
John Edward: Thatâs new.
John Petrozzi: Thatâs new, yeah. So would you ever get the sort of messages that sort of come from guides like the Holy Spirit?
John Edward: You know, Iâve got a friend whoâs a priest, and one night he came to my house and he said to me, âI know you can talk to my grandmother, and weâve done this a number of times, but tonight I want you to bring out the big guns…â
John Petrozzi: Ah!
John Edward: âI want you to bring in some Saints â letâs see, who do we got? Who can we get?â And I had a sort of a laugh, and said âThatâs not happening.â He asked why, and I said, âWell, think about your history, think about all those people who were seers, who dealt with these high vibrational frequencies; these masters of spiritualism or religion, these iconic people. Whenever somebody has any sort of connection with them, really bad things happen to them. Seers in the physical world, they die; they have really bad diseases, or theyâre plagued by something, and I truly believe it has to do with the fact that the physical body canât handle the connection to that voltage, to that kind of higher frequency, so thatâs not happening tonight. Stick to grandma!â
John Petrozzi: Good choice, good choice! Â Itâd be like getting electrocuted, wouldnât it?
John Edward: Yeah, itâs a pretty high level of energy to be channelling through people.
John Petrozzi: Wow. So in terms of finding missing persons, have you done that sort of stuff before? Helped the authorities find missing people
John Edward: You know, Iâve been pulled into cases… I canât say that Iâm at the top of the list, that the police call me every time thereâs missing person, but there are moments I get pulled into it. There are times where Iâll be doing a reading for family, and I get information on it, and they go back and tell the investigators, and the investigators call me, but Iâm very clear that I donât solve anything. I provide insight for the people who work on these cases and they solve them, but thatâs probably less than three percent of what I do.
John Petrozzi: Wow, okay. So I donât know how that sort of work would go, whatâs the logistics in terms of, you know, if someoneâs just missing, how do you get the messages?
John Edward: They would come from my guides.
John Petrozzi: Okay.
John Edward: As a matter of fact, whenever I work on stuff like that, I donât like working with the families of the person thatâs missing, because theyâre too emotionally charged and connected to it, they donât have the objectivity… but the investigator does.
John Petrozzi: And have you ever actually helped someone cross over, or cross into the light, or..?
John Edward: Fortunately yes, I â I shouldnât say fortunately. Â I have had people Iâve known who Iâve helped to make their transition, or talked them through it, or had the conversations with them that their family members or friends wonât have because it was too painful for them to have that conversation… so yeah, itâs not my favourite thing to do, but Iâve done it.
John Petrozzi: And essentially youâre communicating with the unresolved energy, unresolved spirit, is that right?
John Edward: Oh â Iâm actually talking about people before they leave the physical body. People who are actually sick and whatever, but when people make their transition… I donât do what youâre referring to. What I think that youâre referring to is called âRescue Workâ, where there might be a soul thatâs stuck, or is in transition or doesnât evolve completely, and there are people or mediums that do that type of work, but Iâm not one of them.
John Petrozzi: Okay. I just watched some of the World Cup Soccer coverage; itâs just about to start, I canât wait. Iâve just seen some documentaries about South Africa, and there were some â I suppose they call them the village healers; theyâd even call them witch doctors.
John Edward: Yes, theyâre called Sangomas.
John Petrozzi: Aha, Sangomas. So, what kind of energy are they working with? Are they working with the same spirits or frequency that youâre working with, or something totally different?
John Edward: I think theyâre working with the same energies, but I can tell you from firsthand experience, being in South Africa and knowing somebody who went through that experience, I think that their perspective, and this is like any person in the world, whether it be new York, Melbourne, South Africa, or Paris â the person in the physical world, their frame of reference and their perspective, their belief and their religious background, all of that comes into play as a seasoning. So you can take chicken stock, regular beef or chicken stock, and that could be the soul thatâs trying to come through. But the medium, and their beliefs, their upbringing, who they are as people, is the seasoning; and that seasoning can make the chicken stock hot, or it can make it salty, or it can make it full of pepper, or it can make it taste like cinnamon. So it really depends on that personâs experiences and what they âseasonâ into it. So I think the chicken stock is the chicken stock, but the seasoning is what the people bring into it.
John Petrozzi: And is this, I suppose, is it something that people should stay away from, or â in terms of delving into the spirit world, as they say â if youâre not trained what should you do?
John Edward: I donât want to just say the spirit world. Because I think weâre talking about metaphysics in general, and I encourage people to delve into their own intuitive side. As a matter of fact, this fall Iâve got a book coming out called Infinite Quest, thatâs trying to teach people how to discover their intuition and to apply it in their day to day lives, but not to do readings. And I think the place that people shouldnât go; itâs the place of âOh wow, Iâve got a couple of hits on things!  Iâm going to do readings for people!â The amount of ethics and responsibilities that go into doing work for somebody else is beyond huge, and people do not understand. I know this from firsthand experience, watching it happen; they donât understand that what theyâre dealing with is not something that is just a party trick. Itâs not like, âHey, I can get grandmaâs name!â Theyâre opening themselves up to energy. Now, as a chiropractor you know that when youâre dealing with peoplesâ energy and the meridian points in their bodies, and their chi or their prana, you have your hands on another personâs auric field, in their energy…
John Petrozzi: Totally, yeah
John Edward: If youâre working with eight to ten patients a day, youâre now taking on â if youâre not protected energetically â eight to ten peoplesâ stuff.
John Petrozzi: I notice that at the end of the day sometimes, yeah.
John Edward: And whatâs going to happen? By the end of the day youâre going to be manifesting some of their stuff. And because your intent is to help and to heal that person youâre now open to receiving more â almost like an energetic vacuum. Now what happens is that energy from them goes into your own energy field and you will not see it, hear it, or feel it, but you most certainly will react to it. So thatâs why itâs really important that you donât just delve lightly into this subject matter. You immerse yourself in it as soon as you make the decision to look at it. So itâs kind of like Medusa; you donât get a chance to not look at her. You look at her, youâre stone; youâre in. Thatâs it, thatâs it! You donât have a second chance. So itâs really important, if youâre going to look at Medusa, to have your shades on!
John Petrozzi: Hah!
John Edward: So that her gaze isnât going to turn you to stone, and you can still participate in the experience.
John Petrozzi: So in terms of intuition, I totally understand what youâre talking about â I often just, you know, when Iâm working with someone, stuff just sort of comes up, and they think âWell, how did you know that?â Often times Iâve just put it down to the fact that I worked out in my head how their bodyâs working, or not working, sort of put two and two together, and it just pops into my head, but if it is in fact energy transfer, whatâs the best way to protect yourself?
John Edward: First and foremost, there are varying techniques that you can actually use; creating visual shields, breathing techniques, using something called the White Light, being able to bring it around you, and then physical things like washing your hands with cold water, shaking the energy off as if you had something that was â you know, if you wash your hand and you donât have any paper towel, you need to shake that water off, the water representing the energy of the people that are there, to visually give yourself a breather in between clients, and understand, and process, and do a release and letting go of what it was you were just working with, but to go back to what you were saying â energy is no different than pain. So if youâre dealing with a client and that clientâs in pain, and that clientâs got a pain in their neck, youâre immediately thinking that maybe the top vertebrae are somehow pinching on the nerve or doing something thatâs causing that pain. So thatâs a symptom. Well, peoplesâ energy, invisibly, are symptomatic, and an intuitive person will pick up on that. If you have your hands in that personâs energy, youâre also going to intuitively get those hits, and itâs kind of like somebody who â you know, I could be a Phlebotomist â I would have to palpate the peoplesâ veins. I didnât look at the personâs arm when I wanted to feel their veins, I looked away so that my fingers then become the thing that found the vein, and I would visualize it in my head, psychically, that I was actually feeling it. But it wasnât just that I was feeling it, it was seeing the fact that it was there. So thatâs what youâre doing as well  â youâre seeing what it is, as youâre touching your patient, and youâre able to see intuitively whatâs going on, so then youâll ask the question to ascertain whether thatâs something that actually affecting physical anatomy, and from that diagnostic point of view, put you in lock with their alignment.
John Petrozzi: Yeah, thatâs great. I think Iâll start doing that protection stuff. Because sometimes the sympathy pains really hurt, I tell you what!
John Edward: Absolutely. Anybody that does any type of hands on healing â doctors, massage therapists, beauticians, anything that touches somebody else like that â they have to stay on top of that stuff.
John Petrozzi: Thatâs great, thank you
John Edward: Theyâre actually giving me the sign I have to wrap this up
John Petrozzi: Yeah, okay, cool John â John, thanks very much for your time â as always!
John Edward: No problem.
John Petrozzi: And that was an interview with John Edwards, world famous Psychic. I do hope you enjoyed it, as I enjoyed delivering the interview. Heâs a really good guy. And thanks for joining us today on Living is Easy.
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